Israel justifies its murder and terror as retribution for terrorism by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. But the data on terrorist attacks evidences that Israel IS the terrorist state
The biggest terrorist state in the Middle East is Israel as measured by the deaths of civilians, especially women and children.
Exploding Myths of Middle East Terrorism
28 September 2024 by Larry C. Johnson 23 Comments
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Israel is justifying its acts of murder and terror as retribution for terrorism by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. But the data regarding terrorist attacks does not support Israel’s claim. In fact, the biggest terrorist state in the Middel East is Israel as measured by the deaths of civilians, especially women and children.
I want you to go back and read the article I posted — based on data from the Israeli Foreign Ministry — that lists EVERY terrorist attack by Palestinians (including Hamas and Hezbollah) against Israelis or foreigners visiting Israel since August 2000. Here are the key takeaways:
I have completed the initial cleanup of the data posted on the website of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which lists all suspected Palestinian terrorist attacks during the 23-year, four-month period (i.e., 2000 to April 26, 2024). During this period, the Israeli Government identifies 672 terrorist attacks blamed on the Palestinians. Why do I phrase it like that? Because several of the incidents involve the discovery of dead Israelis with no identified attacker. . . .
Now here are the really interesting numbers. 105 of the attacks are attributed to Hamas. 58 to Islamic Jihad and 5 to Hezbollah. In other words, only 25% of the attacks are associated with a specific Palestinian group. The remaining 75% are blamed on nameless culprits. The total number killed by Palestinian violence during this 23-year-plus period is 1,455. That is the number of victims listed at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs site. And, as I noted in my recent article (Hamas is a Third-Rate Terrorist Organization), the Israelis killed 7,065 Palestinians during the same period of time. In other words, the Israelis killed almost five times the number of Palestinians. This may explain why the Palestinians carried out “terrorist” attacks — they were seeking vengeance, retribution.
Remember, these are not my numbers or statistics. These are numbers produced by the Government of Israel. Here is a graph I put up earlier this year, comparing civilian losses in Ukraine with Palestinian deaths and injuries at the hands of Israel. The difference is staggering. In Ukraine, 17 civilians died every day as a result of Russian military operations. In Palestine, the death toll, only through November 1, 2023, was 352 dead per day. Since then, that number has grown exponentially.
In terms of proportionality alone, if we accept Israel’s dubious claim that Hamas killed 1200+ Israelis on October 7, how is Israel justified killing more than 40,000, with the vast majority being women, children and the elderly?
Israel continues to accuse Iran of massive support for terrorism. Yet, as the Israeli Foreign Ministry stats show, neither Hamas nor Hezbollah are engaged in large-scale, casualty causing, terrorist attacks.
Even the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of Counterterrorism (who gets its statistics from the National Counterterrorism Center), has not identified Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran as one of the “Top Perpetrators” of terrorism in the last decade. Here are the numbers for 2018 – 2022.
I had the privilege of persuading my friend, Alastair Crooke, to sit down and discuss Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and Israel. Alastair has had first hand experience with all of them. It was a fascinating and enlightening conversation.
Danny Davis, in light of the murder of Hassan Nasrallah, rounded up Matt Hoh and me for an emergency roundtable. We offered up our opinions about the implications of the attack on Hezbollah’s leadership.
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Wolf69
7 hours ago
Terrorism is a polite fiction. Nations and people use force to acquire what they want, or need, or just enjoy.
Unfortunately, the green haired union lesbian schoolteachers are quite adept at teaching the young to accept the State’s monopoly of deadly force. And to treat anyone else doing the exact same thing as a “terrorist”.
What exactly were the original founders of the USA except terrorists? Numerous studies show that they were an extreme minority of the country. 20% that were ready to use deadly force to extract what they wanted. And their savagery won, and here we are.
I will posit things I value.
One. Competence. The Middle East. The Arabs are incompetent. We can all agree the Jews are murderous fucking animals. But they are competent.
Breathlessly explaining how the UN walked out while they talked will not stop them. Russia. Started off completely useless like Russia always does in a war. And then turned into an unstoppable machine. Competent. And “good guys” does not necessarily equate to “competent guys”.
Two. A personal understanding of the world of endemic violence we live in. I love peaceful people. They are so fucking useless. Violence does not solve anything!! Really. Tell Nasrallah that. Violence solves everything, and it is the quickest route from A to B. I long ago learned that the actual route to peace? Was the absolute willingness to qo from 0 to 60 in a second. Quick story. I walk 6 to 10 miles a day with my Malinois. Some days I go to the Riverparks. I was there a few weeks ago, and a pack of black savages were going opposite direction. Hogging the entire path. I saw this coming, and just stopped. But did not move off the path. They started ghetto jabbering. I looked at the ringleader, and said N++ger. You are first. You die first. They ran their mouth, and then left. Ok, I can hear it coming. I provoked it. No. I saw it coming. If I had tolerated them running me off the path, they would have accelerated. Like the West is doing with Putin.
Three. Knowing when to fold your cards. I am 64 and still strong. 10 years from now without the Malinois and a 9mm? Those animals on the park path would have the advantage. America is turning into a third world shitshow. When I lose the dog I am going somewhere where they beat people with bamboo staves if they spit on the sidewalk. Another way of describing this is REALISM.
And number 3 is the most important. Oh, is Israel evil? Fucking A. What does that have to do with if they win or not? The world is force and violence. And understanding if you can win or lose when the rubber hits the road. Israel is hitting hard and fast and they can give a fuck what the world thinks. And they are winning. Putin does not want to offend his German friends, and sucked dick every day on the way to where we are. And how many more people have died? If Russia had went hard, stayed hard, and gave a fuck about civilian casualties or the tender feelings of Putin’s German friends? Ukraine would have been over long ago.
CarolynZ
Reply to Wolf69
5 hours ago
You sound like a sick person to me. And your opinion of Vladimir Putin is pure fascism. Like the government of the USA.
LaidBackGuy
Reply to CarolynZ
7 minutes ago
Well I see Wolf69 has become a target of the trolls here on SONAR21. He has been sharing thoughts like this in every comment section for every blog post since the comments section was revamped some months ago. And before that he was here posting under a different name.
While I disagree on the Putin comments – I think Putin is playing the long game here and speaking to the Global South with his actions – Wolf is spot on that violence solves problems, and calling urban primitives “Black savages” doesn’t make him racist.
If someone breaks into your home, shooting them dead solves the problem. If someone assaults your family member, putting them in the hospital teaches the prick that there is a line, and he crossed it. Violence solves problems.
A large majority of the black population is unfit to function in civilized society, as evidenced by FBI crime statistics. Blacks make up 13% of the US population. Males from 16 – approx 40-something make up 3% of the US population, but commit the vast majority of violent crime, way out of proportion relative to their makeup in the population. Them taking up the entire walking path is an example of how, based on their mindset and actions, they do not belong in polite society. Stopping on the path and letting them go around gave the savages an out. They decided to be stupid and run their mouth instead of taking the out. Calling them ni++er, which isn’t a big deal since they use that word themselves hundreds of times a day, got their attention and gave them another opportunity to recognize that they were outmatched by the malinois and the 9mm and smartly walk away. It wasn’t racism. It was their second out. Remember, the statistics say at least half of the savages has already committed 1 violent crime, or will, before their mid-forties. I am happy to be called racist for calling black trash “ni++ers” when the alternative could have been my untimely death . Unfit to function in civilized society. By design. Thanks, LBJ.
-LBG
Skeptic
Reply to Wolf69
5 hours ago
Wolf, It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault, Wolf.
BabaClay
Reply to Wolf69
2 hours ago
Will be sure to skip anything written by this cringe master. Ewww
saoirse52
Reply to Wolf69
2 hours ago
You’re an insecure racist thug, The “Black savages”, US citizens, were apparently on a public path, same as you….but it was you that took the confrontational and antagonistic approach, your mindset is no different to that of Netanyahu.
Cat
6 hours ago
The media is 100% a lie.
Iran has been saying they want to get along with US due to sanctions.
Americans are being lie too. You don’t even need to bother to vote for Trump, as they want the MAGA cult club to take Americans into war .
Trump is officially a fucking neocon now and Trump doesn’t want to blow Iran to Smithereens, hell no, Trump wants your son or daughter to go blow Iran to Smithereens while he is safe in the Oval Office or perhaps your son or daughter will not even come back in a bodybag, if after they get hit with a Kinzhal missile.
This is such BS.
CarolynZ
Reply to Cat
5 hours ago
This is why I am a socialist. I say overthrow them all.
CarolynZ
5 hours ago
Larry, you forgot to post the statistics of the greatest killer of all: The United States of America.
JohnRothery
5 hours ago
I am guessing that you ou may find it incredibly frustrating when presenting straight forward facts and statistics to some people, particularly those that go against the corporate media. I find that increasingly I live in a world of two different realities, both believing that they are correct. I will explain.
On the one side are the people gaining their information primarily from independent media. While they will have a range of different political positions, what generally brings them together is (a) a genuine search for the truth, even if it goes against the current narrative of the ‘team’ that they support, and (b) a sceptical approach to life in general, and government in particular.
On the other side are people who get all, or most of their information from corporate media.
Most of the social groups that I attend – gardening, film and book clubs are made up predominantly of the latter. What I find is that while I am far better informed factually than most of them, their views are in many cases at wide variance from reality. It is actually very difficult to have reasoned discussion with many. Partly this is ‘cultural’ – don’t talk about religion or politics. However far more serious is the fact that many people only exposed to official corporate media, actually believe what they are happy to repeat.
So, I am not arguing against presenting facts to people – just the opposite. I am suggesting that we do not underestimate how difficult it is.
Thank you for your excellent work.
John Rothery 😎 (Tauranga)
7p62mm
5 hours ago
It is unfortunate that the Romans did not finish the job in 63AD.
Prometheus
Reply to 7p62mm
4 hours ago
👍 Rome wasn’t counting on idiots like the British to exist and Muslims suck at war which means don’t send a Muslim to do a Roman’s job. Unfortunately, there aren’t any Romans to correct the problem.
L Vincent Anderson
4 hours ago
Just the Crooke video for now. Last pt. of X thread. Just find it ‘interesting’ that the Mizrahi have no room for ‘interpretation,’ a semantic impossibility.
E.g. per @lvincenta1
4/ only at point of doing it was his hand held…”
NOTE: my mentor Maurice Natanson cited Adi Shmueli’s ‘The Last Temptation,’ Freudian anti-infanticider. ‘Lay not thy hand upon the boy.’
AC: “The young troops dancing in Gaza w/ their Tik Tok music, are talking about the Amalek.”
heikomr
4 hours ago
Two issues are addressed far too little. Although these are core problems.
1. follow the money trail. Who benefits from certain political and geopolitical decisions and developments? For example, who benefits from developments in the Middle East or in Europe? Who are the financial investors? These people don’t even give a shit about the Jewish inhabitants of the Israeli state. Unless their death diminishes or threatens their investments and profits.
2. who ensures many years in advance and permanently the willingness of large parts of the Western population to accept the actions of their political “elites”, to perceive them as right or even to become part of the gangsterism?
To clarify a paradoxical thesis in terms of practice. If there had been an independent, investigative, free press under the Hitler regime, there would have been no concentration camps, no Holocaust, no European war.
The mainstream media and oligarchic media corporations are full of mass murderers and genocides. Even if they have not personally tortured, destroyed and murdered. They are mainly responsible, along with the investors and profiteers.
The people fighting or killing are a product of the actions of the above groups of people.
Prometheus
4 hours ago
You keep viewing Israel through your modern Western lens. Israel is justified because of the Torah/Talmud. It’s divinely given commands, including warfare, according to their beliefs. What would you follow: the laws made by man that contradict your belief in laws given by YHWH or the laws given by YHWH that contradict the laws of man?
Israel gives false justifications all the time to hide the ugly truth about Judaism that the modern world can’t stomach. Proportionality doesn’t fit into their logic and religion concerning war. That’s a Western perspective. I grew up living by ancient cultures, specifically Judaism. It’s alien to modern liberal minds. When you understand their goals, you can understand their means which are both clearly stated in their religion. Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia…are on the list to be annexed if the Zionists truly want to acquire the”promised land.” The Israelis will use lies, deception, propaganda, Holocaust guilt, insults of antisemitism…to get to their ends. Us vs them, Jews vs Goyim are very strong and real divisions in how they treat people as found in their sacred texts.
Last edited 4 hours ago by Prometheus
saoirse52
Reply to Prometheus
2 hours ago
What sort of sectarian, rascist”God”would instruct people to murder…..that “God” is Satan! The whole Talmud/Torah is drug-crazed fantasy stuff.
Johan Johansson
Reply to saoirse52
34 minutes ago
Yet the Christians never threw out the Torah, with all it gory portions.
Prometheus
Reply to saoirse52
14 minutes ago
It’s not murder if YHWH commands it. Right and wrong is dependent on what YHWH commands in the religion. Remember! This is the same God that destroyed the earth with a flood, killed all the first born of Egypt, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed Israel and Judah due to their sinfulness, and in the Christian religion will punish sinners with everlasting hellfire and suffering. He clearly states he is “a jealous God” when it comes to people who worship other gods. It’s a culture and way of life modern people in the West don’t understand and feel disgust,
but look at how Israelis act over what they do in Gaza and Lebanon and the puzzlement the foreign spectators experience.
Aggie
3 hours ago
Its hard to imagine god endorsing this, these people doing this in the name of god are manipulators, what amazes me is how easy people are talked out of their life, but are they? It looks like 18-24 year old males support trump who is anti war, and the young women support the warmongers, well maybe you shouldn’t be able to vote unless you sign up for selective service , maybe that will make them think twice
Mel
3 hours ago
We all need to keep in mind that Israel is doing Nation sponsored terrorism.
Mel
2 hours ago
After listening to Alistair, it’s obvious that a 2-state solution was never possible. And it is disturbing to realize that the U.S. also understood this and therefore never acted in good faith, but only on behalf of Israel and not Palestine.
We have no business being involved in this chaos, as Israel is a net negative to the U.S. interest, that we helped stir up.
Israel apparently is dominated by mentally ill religious zealots, and they cannot be reasoned with.
As was stated in the book DUNE, “have you ever looked into the eyes of a religious zealot?”
Wolf69
1 hour ago
The Alastair Crooke interview had one truly interesting story. Which to no surprise, I did not take the way Mr. Crooke intended.
It was a story of internecine savagery between Muslims. Where some Caliph told Shia they could not go into one Mosque or temple. And if they did, they got a finger chopped off. And if they went back, another. Then toes. Then hands. Then feet.
Mr. Crooke was alluding that this Shia capacity for misery would eventually triumph in today’s conflict with Israel! Uh, no.
How I took this story. You should keep your fingers so you can hold a weapon, and you should kill the man doing this. And his followers. You should not utilize Arab magic thinking, and current liberal Western thinking, that your “misery” will prevail. Because you are “right”.
Secondly, the Middle East. Before the USA slaughtered 1 million Iraqi’s? How many died in the Iran/Iraq conflict? 8 years and about a million dead. If the crazy Jews were gone, the Arabs would just start slaughtering each other again. The Shia and Sunni and every other imaginary sect of whose third cousin of the Prophet followed the right path of camel dung in the desert would just be at each other’s throat. It is what religious loons do.
Mr. Crooke, and this is a must listen show by the way, did illustrate the Israeli conundrum. The religious fanatics are in charge of Israel. And unlike Mr. Crooke, I understand they will win this war. And after they win, they will genocide the entire Palestinian population. After they have completely destroyed Lebanon and possibly Iran.
But then, and Mr. Crooke did not go here. What will the insane religious zealots of Israel do after they slaughter their three red heifers and build a Temple? What will they do with the hot little babes of the IDF that like to shake their ass in their uniforms? With the “Jews” that are not “Jew” enough? There will be a purge and a conversion into a true land of religious lunacy. And many of the “Not Jew Enough” will leave. You are going to see some actual Handmaids Tale shit in Israel. And when Rabbi’s or Priests run a country? The economy and country die.
